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Clutch not disengaging

  • 22 Jun 2026 9:24 AM
    Message # 13645195

    Hi all, looking for advice on my clutch.  When I put everything together I inspected the plates and linings and they looked to be in decent shape.  I suspect that they are probably the originals.  When I first start the bike and press the clutch pedal down it appears that the clutch doesn't want to disengage.  I try to select first gear but it wants to grind gears.  After riding the bike for a while and things warm up, it seems to disengage much better.  BTW I am using 50 wt oil in the transmission.  

    I also noticed that the amount of force required to depress the clutch pedal seems excessive.  After reading other posts on the forum it sounds like the cure for that will be to remove a couple of the springs, so I will try that.  Any suggestions on what can be done to help the clutch disengage?  

  • 22 Jun 2026 12:48 PM
    Reply # 13645290 on 13645195

    Bill, try 30wt non-detergent and see if that makes a difference.  The 50wt sounds like it needs "loosening" up before it stops sticking the plates together.  30wt works well in both my Indians, even with the full complement of springs!

  • 23 Jun 2026 7:20 AM
    Reply # 13645640 on 13645195

    You may have, or should have, checked this:

    When the stack of plates are compressed, there should be some space to allow the pressure plate to back off to disengage the clutch plates from drive. If I remember correctly for the 101 (and same for Chiefs and 741 I think) optimal free space is no more than 3/16 in. and no less than 1/8 in. and is measured between the pressure plate pushing on the pack and the spring plate. You can insert drill bits into this gap to measure it. 

    To adjust for this: select and install the fiber and steel plates that work out for that space. The association's repair and operation book (which you should have) gives the 101 plate mix for after Aug. 1 1928 and may be of interest to you if you still have the original plates as these may match that Indian specification. New plates may cause a need for adjustments. In one case I had to grind off material from one side of a plate to make a "half" plate to get the stack to work out. 

    BTW: My first 101 came with what I suspect were its original clutch plates. I replaced them with a stack from KIWI. Didn't make any difference I could feel. The originals were just fine. 

    The 101 can use all its springs. It was thought that later Chiefs included extra springs for side car use and so those not running side cars removed some.

    Over many years I settled on using ATF Type F (Ford) fluid (no friction modifiers meeting JASO MA/MA2 certifications), which has a viscosity equivalent to engine oils of between 20 and 10 wt. I happen to use Trick Shift "Original" 80260 mineral transmission fluid for no performance reason I just like the clear blue color that allos me to see if any dirty engine oil is leaking past the seal into the primary (which it does sometimes on one of my 101's). I have had no clutch issues with Trick Shift. It has popularity among MX bike racers (but for centrifugul shoe clutches). There are mixed guesses online if the original formulation has any frition modifiers. Any conventional ATF Type F would be a safer choice I guess. 

    Last modified: 23 Jun 2026 7:20 AM | Robert Lodge
  • 23 Jun 2026 6:48 PM
    Reply # 13645992 on 13645195

    Thanks Harry and Robert, appreciate your information.  Sounds like I have some work to do....

    Last modified: 23 Jun 2026 7:33 PM | Bill Erickson
  • 30 Jun 2026 3:20 PM
    Reply # 13648422 on 13645195

    Well, the gap between the spring plate and pressure plate was correct.  Upon further inspection I noticed that all of the clutch disks were 1/8" (instead of 3/16".  So, there were more clutch plates since they were thinner.  In addition, there was one steel plate short (the first 3 clutch disks did not have a steel plate between them).  According to the R and O manual, only the first two clutch plates should not have a steel plate between them.   I suspect I should just order up some new ones.

    Last modified: 30 Jun 2026 8:07 PM | Bill Erickson


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